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Permalink Reply by EARA JORDON on September 18, 2010 at 1:43pm

With these coordinates, I can see the same object. But it is not clear enough to descipher what it is. I know, though, if it were giant ships coming to pick us up, they wouldn't take 2 years to get here, like a bulky machine-age transport.
Or any Time whatsoever. They traverse and dimensional transference through Time-Space. At least the Higher Beings. They'd just uncloak in the present Time at times of cataclysmic activities, as a pre-destined activity meant for some of us. Those who are 'going' have a good idea about it; however, Ascension can happen in All Time and Space without the use of machines, ships, etc.. There WILL be a Star 'Planet'-Interdimensional-Space that will consume some of us as we ascend to the the Light of the New Earth. Unbelievable? No.

Permalink Reply by Ken Rice on September 18, 2010 at 2:32pm

I put in the coordinates and zoomed as far as it would take me and I don't see anything close to the picture above, much less anything blue. I even moved the image to a larger HiDef screen. Any suggestions?

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 18, 2010 at 3:34pm

hmm.. did you check coordinates around those coordinates? maybe it moved? Just thinking.

I thank you for actually looking!

Permalink Reply by Inelia on September 18, 2010 at 2:42pm

It is interesting that this has come to your attention at this particular time. Both the posting of the book about October 10th (which I have to agree with Lea Anna there on the agenda behind it) and this particular article.
From my observations, it appears that the elite are planning a "coup de tat" at the moment before the new Earth configuration locks into place, thus keeping darkness (fear energy) locked for the next few thousands years.
Due to the fact that there is now a mass awakening going on and people are purposely processing their fear and victim energy, what they plan to do is hold a huge "fear event". This could indeed involve the "appearance" of spaceships all over the world, which they could then "deal with" after the fear energy is locked in. Or it could be that they are bringing in masses of humanoids to bring the critical mass back to a fear vibration base. Which could explain their interest in the stargates around the world.

Of course, there is also a prophesied event in many cultures that speaks of the 3-5 days of darkness. These days could go either way. On one sense, if indeed it is going to be caused by a magnetic type wave from space, all electronic devices will stop working for three days. No big deal. However, it means that the elite will have no "pollution" of the airways, and, unless the prepare people to be terrified of this event before hand, all people will experience is deep peace, a clear mind and rest. Perfect to tap into heart. Which is what native cultures around the world are asking us to do during those days, and the years preceding them.

Permalink Reply by ev on September 18, 2010 at 10:35pm

interesting...what i see in front of me daily... is what i believe
love & light
~namaste~

Permalink Reply by Melanie sarah costin on September 19, 2010 at 2:45am

usually an imagae such as this (spacial anomaly) will have some sort of...resonance the instant i see it. I feel nothing here besides mild curiosity. rather curious about the colour being blue. scare tactics perhaps; i do agree that a sophisticated space ship would take considerably less than two years to travel the distance but one must concider the things size (if that part of the report is true.)
There is so much out there, so much speculation, so many untruths that its becoming harder and harder to separate the facts from the fictions. There are some things i have come to realise though- the higher ruling powers are very good at hiding the truth in plain sight. placing a real picture in a dodgy sounding article is definately in their repertoir.
project blue beam does rate a mention here and i am glad someone else was brave enough to say the words first. The millenium bug and project blue beam are working hand in hand to discredit what ever it is they KNOW will occur in 2012.
I am curious as to the referance to the 'three days of darkness'. Even the Mayans referred to a three days 'changeover' as the world slips from the axis. i am quite literally on the opposite side of the globe and wonder if your three days of darkness shall result in three days of harsh sunlight without repreive for us- underground may be our only escape from the ensueing heat.

I do not think the image is as they say. The numbers do not add up. but if it is true then my money would be on the ark side of the argument. if it were a raiding vessel then they would not set themselves up to be spotted so far out, they would use jump rooms and the like to catch us unawares. An ark would want to be seen from far out- so we could begin the preparations to leave and be ready when they arrive.
I've been preparing for 2012 in my own way as best as i can without 'upsetting the establishment' but know that should 2012 come and go with nothing occurring then i would be extremely disheartened. The world has to change! if not 2012, if not with 'help' then how?

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 19, 2010 at 12:28pm

The Feign of Fear

After reading this ‘blog’ entry and all of its responses, I have come to this conclusion. I will call it a blog, because it hardly is news. But then lately all news is only commentary sprinkled with a skewed point of view.

What got me about this 'blog' was an idea of Seti has been mysteriously shut down. Well.. hate to break the news bubble for you.. Seti is still very much functioning, if you don't believe me.. head to their website: www.seti.org or their other site: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu Sorry to the conspiracy theorists Seti is very much alive and kicking. The article in question states that the government recently shut down Seti. How can they shut down a privately funded organization? Yes Seti at one time received funding from the Government aka NASA and started the MOP (Microwave Observation Project) in 1992. Congress got wiff of it, ridiculed it and shut it down a year later. Seti through private funding started MOP up again and renamed it to the “Project Phoenix”. Today Seti still continues with different programs as they still search for signals coming from our universe.

The article continues on about ideas of an alien invasion coming to earth to enslave mankind to do their bidding. There is one point in the article that says and I quote: "Not long ago a Russian Mars probe photographed an object fitting this description just before it was destroyed for unknown reasons" Oh that's nice.. Not long ago? Dates please?? and perhaps data to back it up? Or is this just peppering a story to make it sound more credible? Hmmm? Oh and it also continues to say.. that a mars probe was destroyed before it reached the planet. Just a passing thought you know? Well, let’s continue onwards shall we with this article? It goes on to say that people at Seti UNANIMOUSLY agree that "we are not alone in the universe" Okay.. fair.. but so does roughly 70% of the world’s population.

To make a good story stick.. lets throw in government cover up. Secret plans to turn Radio Telescopes into weapons to blast those bastard aliens from the sky.. yeah. that will show them. And to really make this story look credible lets throw in some well known names to boot. But why stop there? Lets throw in some really blurry photographs to make our point.

The first one they put up shows this fuzzy blob that looks amazingly like a computer game joystick. Anyone know what those are? Here let me show you:

Blob in space: http://i54.tinypic.com/8yvm10.jpg
Computer game joystick: http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ep/eu/games-work-d-attack-joysticks-20...

Oh and BTW when where those images taken? Amazing for a piece of investigative journalism would miss this very obvious piece of evidence. I’m not ridiculing that the photo is fake, but more information is needed. Just vague references like the rest of the article.

You can smell the recipe brewing can you? It is now a ripe breeding ground for conspiracy theorists to froth at the mouth. How do I know this? Just read the replies to the post especially on beforeitsnews.com. Things come out of people who believe in conspiracy theories that are absolutely unrelated to the article yet it is remembered. One poster said they read somewhere that ships would arrive in Oct, 10, 2010 another poster said they would arrive on *gasp* Dec 21, 2012! how coincidental! And somehow these dates get attached to this article which never gave them. I don’t know how many people came to me and said.. What’s with Oct and this ship heading our way? They give me this article and there is no mention of any dates except in the responses. Guys dates are BS in IMHO. Not one Doomsday prophet has predicted the date correctly, throughout history. I mean we are all still here right? Even those trying to predict when the space family will arrive have been wrong. NOT one person has been correct! so dates smates.. don't race to Vegas and place your bets on them.

But it gets worse as I read some of the comments, they start bringing up HAARP, Project Blue Beam.. Mind control projects. Some of us are Clairaudient we hear voices in our head. So if someone just by chance comes here and reads that the government is sending them messages via their mind through aliens or ascended masters are fake and to fear and run. What is the message? They should fear their thoughts or they are going to end up in some plastic coffin? True or not, the thing is, it’s instilling fear and for a person who is just discovering all of this? This would scare the bejeezes out of them. Do you see the message of fear? Fear your government; your thoughts; fear everything around you!

cont... below

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 19, 2010 at 12:29pm

Feign of Fear cont....

I heard a famous quote once and it’s worth repeating it here: There is nothing to fear.... but fear itself.

This whole article is designed to instill fear. To instill fear of the the unknown. It’s a piece of propaganda to fuel the conspiracy theorists into a frenzied thought that they are literally foaming at the mouth going see! proof right there? What proof? Because some guy is talented in writing a 'blog'? It is glaringly obvious this piece is a fake at least to me. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this, yet people are going crazy over this spouting NWO! when the article clearly doesn't even mention it at all.

Why are these people going nuts? It is very evident that the writer of this article intended for it to go viral. This exact same article is posted in several places on the web. Rule number 1 for perpetuating a lie. Repeat it often enough and people will eventually take it for truth.

Rule number 2 for perpetuating a lie, sprinkle the lie with elements of the truth. You see.. there is a funny thing with humans. When we are told truth there is a part of us within ourselves that resonates with that truth. Every single human and being that exists has this within themselves. Those who know how to manipulate the masses knows this and they use it. They fabricate their lie and sprinkle it with truth knowing that humans will resonate with the truth. So if there is some truth.. no matter how small.. they are counting on that the lie will too be believed. They know if they just say a lie it won't be believed, but sprinkle it with some truth.. and the person stops and tries to rationalize it.. then go.. well it must be true.

How does this come into action? There is many examples of it in our daily lives. Politicians are the master of this. Example. Healthcare reform in the United States. It was wildly popular initially until the Politicians got their hands on it. A provision was added into the healthcare reform saying that doctors can be reimbursed for end of life counseling. If anyone knows what end of life counseling is, it is where a family sits down with a doctor to build a guideline of what kind of treatments a terminally ill patient should receive and when to stop treatments. These valuable talks get put into living wills. Should a person stay on life support or should they not. Well our politicians decided to call end of life counseling 'death panels' and started a propaganda blitz that was actually very successful. They took a truth and twisted it so badly that they were screaming that the government decides when grandma is to live or die.. aka.. death panels. It was a blatant lie, but it caught on and people believed it to be true. In the process they caused so much fear in the population that suddenly Healthcare reform was no longer popular, a large portion of the population was suddenly against the idea of reform.

This article that I've mentioned above is no different. It is designed to feed those who wish to instill fear in others. Just read some of the responses. People are fearful. And fear is used to control the masses. Really, fear your own thoughts as one poster replied? The government is mind controlling you Fear your thoughts people? What sort of life is that? Its not a life. There is nothing to fear. You are in complete control of how you feel. You have the tools within you to discern between truth and a lie.

My favorite line that I seem to use a lot: Keep what resonates within you (truth), throw out the rest. In doing so, you begin to see a lie for what it really is. Just a lie. And knowing that.. you have nothing to fear.

Getting off my soapbox now.

Much love
Novaspirit.

Permalink Reply by theGIC.org on September 19, 2010 at 12:37pm

agreed

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 19, 2010 at 4:36pm

You rock Vlada. You are right.. we do need to stand up more, to what we believe in. True freedom is being able to voice your opinion without fear of persecution or ridicule. To have respect for everyone's opinion. If it means also respecting those who shout at the top of their lungs and even those you disagree with. It is to counter the negativism and fear inducing thought patters. It is destructive. Just imagine how many things could have been accomplished without what I would call... Fear Bullying into submission.

I found a few faults with the article and found information to at least back what I was thinking. But you know.. it does make for good science fiction. There is truth littered in the article but also a lot of assumptions and vague facts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and all opinions should be at least respected if nothing else. :)

Much love and hugs

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 19, 2010 at 8:46pm

Hi Lea Anna,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me. The article in question is the one that is the topic of this thread. I read the article and basically broke it down.. almost line for line. When someone is going to write an article like the one with the ships coming supposedly being photographed somewhere in the Kuiper Belt or Ort Cloud and then create a story around it without any data to back it up, I tend to go searching for information to see if there is anything to back up the claims. What I found with the article in question on the other sites where I read the article was the responses. There is such an array of different responses and the I have to say that the ones that feel like the point being made is to fear what is happening sometimes can throw me off kilter.

I actually am not discounting at all if NWO, HAARP or Project Blue Beam exists. I can sometimes oppose how the information is presented. When I am being introduced to new concepts and ideas I like to be presented with something like this in a case type form. Data, evidence, testimonials and theories all woven to make a case for something to exist that on record does not officially exist. It engages me, makes my mind think and if presented without telling me that I should be very afraid, I am allowed to make up my own decisions on the information being presented. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for the information to be sugar coated just statements. If they are working on a mind controlling project, layout the case as to why you believe this is so. Is it successful? Is there proof? Testimonials? Because conventional science can't even do that yet.. other than lift objects.. or implants to the brain to track brain impulses to help a paraplegic move a mouse across the screen. So to me.. current science says we are just cracking the code.. so if some government program is light years ahead of even the best scientist in the 'World' we need see a good case built up to make the point. With the HAARP case.. build a case on how they are manipulating the weather and cataclysmic events such as earthquakes. For me.. this kind of approach allows people to become curious and engaged. when allowed the information they make informed decisions.

Sometimes I think that is what the problem is with many conspiracy theories.. They yell so loud at the top of their lungs.. that the public tunes them out and they stay on the fringes. Taking an approach similar to how UFOlogy has taken where they bring a case study approach and the idea is more easily accepted and assimilated, no matter how hard anyone is trying to cover it up does.

Okay, onto this Oct date. My question would be.. When did he write that? did he give a specific year? Because I recall, clearly and I actually could make references to it was that in October of 2008 there was to be a mass reveal of space ships over every city. This was also in conjunction with the election with then Candidate Barack Obama. Well.. I was a gullible one and waited with baited breath hoping to see them appear. Didn't happen. The date passed without a ripple in the sky. Of course those who predicted this date made every excuse in the book as to why they didn't show up. But it was a good reminder to not put faith in dates. Do I believe they are out there.. yes.. do I think they will show up? I sure wish they would. Do I believe in any given date.. No... its only setting me up to be disappointed along with everyone else who also believed. October 2008 wasn't the only date to be predicted for the arrival. Each date set.. each date passed without a ripple in the sky. So my thought here is.. Oct 10 or 13 comes and goes without a ripple in the sky, I'm not going to be disappointed. I've already been through this two years ago and ever since.. until I got off that merry go round. If they do show up.. I'm ready! :)

Many hugs
novaspirit

Permalink Reply by Nova Spirit on September 20, 2010 at 12:10pm

I looked up the references to this book. There is a second edition of this book that is available for a crazy price. The copyright date of the book is 2008. I have found no place to purchase this '3rd edition' yet which jumps nearly a hundred pages from the second edition. Second edition has 261 pages; Third Edition has 357 pages. To give benefit of a doubt, the book may not be in circulation yet and this would be an advance review.

I find it vastly interesting in how similar the description of what would happen is similar to what was going on in 2008. Ships appearing in the sky.. but no landing.. no communication. The only thing going for that article is that it says.. Tentatively the date is Oct 13. Giving himself an exit clause since yes the ramifications for a date passing without the event is a severe setback for the person spouting the date as witnessed in 2008.

I don't know who started the Oct 2008 event. When I became aware of it, I was reading Messages from Matthew by Suzy Ward. At that time there was much discussion about it which lead me to find more information from someone called Blue Star who says they are Pleaidian. It all sounded so wonderful at the time and seemed like they might be right since much of what Matthew spoke in that time all came to pass. So it seemed credible. Boy I was disappointed when it didn't happen LOL. And when I read updated information, everyone was giving excuses as to why it didn't happen. It was a good lesson to learn. Don't rely on dates!

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